General Discussion everything and anything related to Integral Spiritual Center. ~Please enter this forum consciously. May the next words out of your mouth (and into this forum) be from your Highest Self as you understand it.en-USCommunityServer 2.0 (Build: 60217.2664)Re: Unexpected Enlightenment, 11 Feb 2007 14:05:49 GMTee28e699-b6ce-41f9-9b68-f4b3d2b14a5b:19238jwcargile0


Thanks for spending time breaking this down in the four quadrants. I will certainly keep this in mind when driving a school bus. This is a very wholesome insight.

Re: Unexpected Enlightenment, 28 Jan 2007 21:42:19 GMTee28e699-b6ce-41f9-9b68-f4b3d2b14a5b:18796charlesb0

Hi JW,


It may be of some surprise to you, but i happen to be a very practical person, i.e. i am very much at home in the physical world, especially when it comes to work.


The chief feature i would look for in a school bus driver is mindfulness, i.e. the capacity and willingness to pay full and complete attention to the task immediately at hand. If it’s time to observe what is going on in ALL of the mirrors AND elsewhere in your field of vision then just look completely, if unsure look again –reminding yourself (if necessary) that precious human lives are in your hands. Part of mindfulness is connected to physicality, in the sense that our physical actions need to stem from the center of being. If this phrase or concept is unclear, you are invited to try this exercise: Stand with not more weight on your left foot than your right; and also not more weight on the balls of your feet than the heels. When i first tried this technique (which i got from Paul Reps) i did so using a visualization; like this: i saw a trough going laterally through my pelvis (from left to right), on it was a small metal ball, my task was to get the ball to stay steady at the midpoint.


If every school bus driver was centered in this way (physically/consciously) before putting the bus into gear, things would improve all around. It would be better for the bus (UR): no stripped gears; better for the driver (UL): increased peace of mind and heart; better for the kids and their parents (LL): smooth, timely, worry free transport; and better for the school system (LR), fewer accidents, fewer law suits, and lower repair, maintenance, and insurance costs, etc.





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Re: Unexpected Enlightenment, 28 Jan 2007 13:47:02 GMTee28e699-b6ce-41f9-9b68-f4b3d2b14a5b:18773jwcargile0

Yes, I agree. Enlightenment has many definitions, and I feel the way it is used here is on a lower tier. I would not exactly know how to classify IT by AQAL standards, simply that some people offer enlightenment to others, or a piece of wisdom in the 2nd person to the person in 1st person. I think that is what is going on with the column I have written, dedicated to my new friends on the I-I forum.

I am particularly interested in knowing how AQAL could be applied to a school bus driver. I am the driver (interior) driving a school bus to transport children (external), taking them (We) to school (IT).

Is this how AQAL would work in this application. I know there would be other states, levels and lines involved, but I am trying to figure how applied AQAL to practical situations. Does this make sense?

Re: Unexpected Enlightenment, 28 Jan 2007 13:31:48 GMTee28e699-b6ce-41f9-9b68-f4b3d2b14a5b:18771charlesb0


Hi JW,


At your suggestion i have read this posting, finding it quite informative, folksy, and almost charming.


However use of the word enlightenment can be tricky as it has several definitions. It can mean a greater clarity on a given level, sometimes called translation; or actual self-realization (Sanskrit: atman jnana), a transformation beyond measure. Any confusing or conflating of the two is sad at least and tragic at worst.






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Unexpected Enlightenment, 26 Jan 2007 21:05:44 GMTee28e699-b6ce-41f9-9b68-f4b3d2b14a5b:18687jwcargile0

A column for next week's newspapers


Unexpected enlightenment – You never know who you’ll meet


It’s been a busy month after retiring, so busy in fact, that I am getting log cabin fever. So, in my sixth decade on earth, I’ve decided to ply a new trade.

How about a school bus driver? Children can be enlightening, and Jesus taught us that we must come into enlightenment the same as a small child. What this means integrally for us with all the knowledge, wisdom, and answers to all of the world’s questions, should be as a wide-eyed child in faith. All the garbage we have collected over our lifetimes means little. He taught that if we have faith as a mustard seed you could say mountain, move, and it would go far away. As far-fetched as it seems, I have heard and read about the mind of some enlightened men and women, do just that. Most of us, however, have little faith. There is a color code for that, too, which I shall explain in later writings.

Having studied the new integral life practices that I told you about last week, I can see the parallel of how we mature and move from stage to stage in this life. There are not only stages, but states, levels and lines of consciousness that we move through. Some psychologists say it takes five years to move from one stage in life to the next, some longer than others. If, as they say, there are nine stages in consciousness, which is only a guess; there may be other stages we don’t even know about in the year 2007. Now these stages are color-coded, according to Dr. Don Beck, creator of Spiral Dynamics. The spiral on this page, in a separate advertisement, is a chart of spiral dynamics. Dr. Beck has a website called Spiral Dynamics Integral. So everyone is getting integral.

In this new life, I have found that being a school bus driver; you get a map that goes with the territory. In integral practice, you only get a map. The territory is yourself, the inner part of you and you can travel up and down the spiral at any given time in body, mind and spirit.

I have made new friends since becoming an integral community member. There’s a 56-year-old woman (married) who has a chronic illness. She lives in Finland. There is a bright Capricorn (same as I) who lives in British Columbia, Canada. There is a polite guy, who questions me at length about enlightenment, in southern California, and a skeptic in Illinois. Then there is a lady who calls herself Helene, who is from Poland originally. She was there in the holocaust and she has a vivid memory of the torture she was put through before she escaped and managed to cross the ocean into America. Each new friend has much to offer when talking about integral living.

Our individual journeys take us into many unexpected situations where we encounter a wide variety of people-some quite like ourselves and some very different. We cannot anticipate these meetings, but we can make the most of them when they take place. When we are courteous as a matter of course and open-minded in our assessment of the individuals whose lives briefly touch our own, we are more apt to stumble upon surprising gems of wisdom that open our eyes to new worlds of possibility. Every person we meet can affect us profoundly, just as every situation we find ourselves in can teach us something new.

To fully embrace this fact, it is essential that we acknowledge that everyone is valuable in their own way and capable of expanding our horizons. Since we never know when we will happen upon those individuals who will unveil truths before us, we should extend to all people the same generous level of kindness, care, compassion, and understanding. When we assume everyone we meet is special and treat them as such, we can develop a strong rapport quickly. By making an effort to adopt a positive attitude toward others at all times, we ensure that our emotions do not blind us to wisdom that may be lurking in difficult or distressing situations. We are accordingly receptive to knowledge that comes to us in the form of examples, advice, and direct teaching.

These brief relationships ultimately have the potential to enrich our lives in a very concrete way. But the wisdom we gain is proportional to the attention we pay to the world around us. The responsibility is on us to maintain a state of awareness that allows us to recognize when we are in the presence of someone consciously or unconsciously in possession of knowledge that will change us significantly. When we are cognizant of the potential for unexpected enlightenment, we make a habit of turning strangers into friends, thus ensuring that we are never without a font of wisdom from which to draw.


John W. Cargile, Msc.D, D.D. is a licensed ordained minister through International Metaphysical Ministries and a graduate of Samford University (1969). E-books, reference material and study programs are now available at his website For those with special prayer needs, call Unity’s prayer line at 1-800-669-7729. You can contact him at All conversations are confidential.