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  • Re: Integral Weddings

    Schalk, it seems that you are sidestepping the the Lower Left quadrant just by saying it doesn't matter. As much as we do have some freedom, we are at the same time embedded in a culture. Western cultures instills in us individualistic values, so we find ourselves in a paradox where rejecting individualism is an individualistic stance, and ...
    Posted to Embodied Practice (Forum) by mrteacup on August 1, 2008
  • Re: Integral Weddings

    So I don't think it's manipulation to raise at least some boys as potential soldiers--it's for their own good and the good of their family, tribe, country.I'm reluctant to do things to people without their consent ''for their own good''. I think the conclusion we are led to through an integral lens on gender is that the culture should allow the ...
    Posted to Embodied Practice (Forum) by mrteacup on July 30, 2008
  • Re: Integral Weddings

    I know a former&nbsp;Marine who has&nbsp;a tattoo that says ''death before dishonor.'' This is important to him. Dishonor being - not standing by the side of his peers as they do their duty and take risks. He cannot live with himself if he does not validate his worth as a seed-bearer by showing his peers his courage and honor.In his book The ...
    Posted to Embodied Practice (Forum) by mrteacup on July 30, 2008
  • Re: Integral Weddings

    ambosuno, you say,So I guess I am wondering as this conversation unfolds, what is really significantly at risk? Is most of the concern on authorities more theoretical and easily manageable than a major threat?Since all quadrants co-arise, it isn't possible to truly ''manage'' the excesses of the LL and LR. In the West, we prioritize the ...
    Posted to Embodied Practice (Forum) by mrteacup on July 29, 2008
  • Re: Integral Weddings

    Brilliant! However, just because pornography exists doesnt mean you should never have sex. Just because cheesy, shallow, inauthentic weddings are around doesnt mean, marriage should never occur. Unfortunately, it's not as simple as that. Plenty of people reject the fakeness of Disney World and Las Vegas, and instead choosing more ...
    Posted to Embodied Practice (Forum) by mrteacup on July 27, 2008
  • Re: Integral Weddings

    Schalk, you say:It should not be a convenient partnership or a merger of interests or a strategic alliance. These are all based on the separate self.This ''me'' is a massively deceptive little con artist - and all of its games are revealed in a union.You seem to be equating the Western moral concept of unselfishness with the Buddhist concept of ...
    Posted to Embodied Practice (Forum) by mrteacup on July 26, 2008
  • Re: Integral Weddings

    This is an interesting topic, one that I have been wrestling with for quite some time. I'm looking forward to hearing other opinions too.Charles raises an important concern that I also share - is it not obscene for the government to intrude in our most intimate affairs and issue a license (like a driver's license? a fishing license?) to two ...
    Posted to Embodied Practice (Forum) by mrteacup on July 24, 2008
  • Re: The Teal-Obama thread

    This was the Democratic Party that I grew up in - a party that was unhesitatingly and proudly pro-American, a party that was unafraid to make moral judgments about the world beyond our borders.It is something that is in his field of awareness, that he understands, and that he has also transcended.I disagree. The party he grew up with was Orange, ...
    Posted to Nunc Fluens (Forum) by mrteacup on July 7, 2008
  • Re: The Teal-Obama thread

    Just because Lieberman takes a hard line against the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and the FARC doesn't mean he agrees with Cheney's views on executive power He sponsored a bill that was designed to help the administration launch a strike against Iran without congressional authorization. You want to give Lieberman and Cheney the benefit of the
    Posted to Nunc Fluens (Forum) by mrteacup on July 7, 2008
  • Re: The Teal-Obama thread

    This is just an entirely seperate issue than the one we have been discussing... I don't even see why you bring up Lieberman in that context. It speaks to two issues: First, whether Lieberman is teal as you claim. If you oppose Bush-Cheney's lawless power grab, his apparent complicity in it is a strong argument against that. You want to ...
    Posted to Nunc Fluens (Forum) by mrteacup on July 5, 2008
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