There was not a reply button to click onto regarding the enlightenment and buddha raft thread so I hope its ok to to reply here. Both scalk and caveman have great comments and I learn much from the both of you. I just wanted to share to caveman the biggest contributon that has been made in my life regarding why bother the path of enlightenment ...

Yes, Schalk I agree . That remark made by Hillary regarding RFK assasination brings to my mind what Wilber says about developmental lines.. Wilber himself has commented about on somedays his speaking and how he uses his language is of a very high level of development , and on other days it is at a much lower level . I have alot of respect for ...

Peace as a direct experience I agree is heathy and nuturing. Peace as a belief  that one must try to attain to be spiritual can be self defeating.

Thanks Shalk for recreating what I am attempting to communicate. I dont know what cognitive line I am at nor is it important in the world I choose to come from. I speak from my own personal experience on what has contributed and not contributed to my wellbeing. The traditional AA line is the   My name is ? an Iam an alcoholic.  ...

If  so how ?  It is purely created from nothing.  In other words who we really are is brought forth from nothing.  Looking for evidence or an understanding is more of a conceptual straight jacket . As was once shared with me,   it takes little risk to step into the unknown,  the real journey is to step from the ...

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It is really a function of epistomology, in how we know what we know. We are brought up in a system where knowing is a function of a system of agreements. So in this context , it is wrong to be addicted, and right to be not addicted. This type of knowing is what creates the tension and the resistance. Thus there is no space for the addicted part. ...

Is it not just the realizatuion that the whole rational process of defining, and conceptualizing, and TRYING to understand what this all means gets in the way of directly experiencing the whatness and suchness of whatever is arising.  Life does not come with meaning,  and the small seperates self is constucted on meaning and ...

Although the definition of a thing is not the thing,  I get great value from your definitions for nirvana. Thanks fairyfaye.

I wanted to reply to this topic before I listed to the clip . Sports has been a good thing bad thing towards my growth as a spiritual being. Yes it has contributed to my self discipline and towards feelings of wellbeing since the payoff of a good work out is the endorphins that get released by the body. The down side of it in my experience is the ...