Yeah no shit the map is a description of terriotory, and you still didnt answer the question. You are however beating around the bush in a very polite sense, and that gives me the green vibes comming from you big time, you probably wont see it that way or you might see that aspect in youself who knows.The mild frustration that is present for me ...

I liked it.

charlesb:Happy Friday S,   Brief mention of the Basic Moral Intuition by can be found in KW’s recent little book called The Integral Vision; a fuller explication of it can be found in the endnotes of his Sex, Ecology, and Spirituality, where he does say that the BMI is not an ‘engraved tablet of written instructions’, but just that –an ...

Do you happen to remember which book or books the BMI is offered in (or maybe there is a link to it somewhere on the web?), this sounds like something right up my alley and something that might help me better word my views with some more up to date maps. Oh and what would you do in this very difficult situation Charles?

vulgan:the only goosebumps i felt were the scary type...sorry. i do understand, but it is scary because i know this is how alot of in truth very humane people seem to be thinking. there are people who will make this kind of decision ''for the greater good'' heartlessly of course, in a kind of hard headed (scary!) denial of the ...

I actually have a friend I voice chat with from melbourne, he isnt a psychologist...or integral... but he is from melbourne!

vulgan:satorizones... emotionally it would be a hard one, but as a moral or rational question i feel that i do know what atleast SHOULD be done. and anyway, i can always kill myself afterward if it's more about my continuing miserableness... than about not realizing that some things that are done for a greater good will ...

we were givin the question a day ago, and tommarow we will discuss it, but i will bring up your point because i dont think it was covered.

After listening to some others in class that seems to be the common answer, something about that deeply troubles me. Would I think less of you if you killed one for the sake of many, no not at all. Would I think less of myself for doing the same thing? The answer is yes absolutely.

Hypotetical question:If you were in a hostage situation and you were given a choice of a.) shoot one person and the rest go free. orb) don't kill anyone and because you didnt choose to kill, everyone would be killed.Philosophers looked at for the discussion:Jeremy Bentham- ''Hendonistic Calculus''Immanuel Kant- ''Actions must be done from ...