brooks, what has been a contribution to me in what you have brought up conserning experience, is what someone once shared with me is you can't couch experience in concepts or symbols. Lingustically no has ever been able to describe what they are experiencing right NOW. As soon as you try to descibe what you are experiening, it is no longer an experience, it is a concept of what you were experiencing a little while ago, meaning a tiny fraction of a second ago.
What comes to mind as I type this is what Ken brought up when Galeleo was attemting to communicate to the church what he was experiencing when he looked through the telescope and the churched chose not to look. Maybe Wolinsky has not done the work in the UL quandrant to get the communication that Wilber was attempting to make.
Language takes us only so far in these matters we are discussing. The best we can do is make distinctions,ie: like you can never figure out THE TRUTH, THE TRUTH is a space we come from in the NOW, NOW as a transcendency to time is always and only created coming from NOTHING.
Bill Kilburg,